#23 — In this episode of The Microscopists, we have a double-header for you as we’re joined by Mark Bray of Novartis and Pearl Ryder of the Carpenter Lab at the Broad Institute. Mark and Pearl share their career histories, from high school to med school to the lab. We take in their career highlights—including Pearl’s founding of the Future PI Slack peer mentoring group—as well as their thoughts on the importance of a holistic approach when making career decisions, wedding planning in a pandemic, and why in Mark’s experience, the move from academia to industry isn’t as scary as it sounds.

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